11. Am I following the right career path? Human Design reading with Jen – Transcription

In this episode, I have Jen’s expertise with Human Design. She explains what it is, how it’s TOTALLY different to reading your horoscope or zodiac, and she shares my design!

Jen goes through my:
– design type
– strategy (how to effectively use my strengths)
– authority (the best way that I make decisions)
– profile (how I present myself and move through life)
– incarnation cross (my SUPERPOWER!)
– & so much more!


Welcome back to the podcast. Today I have Jen joining us again with something really, really exciting and I am genuinely excited to hear about this. And I’ve heard about it before, but she is an expert in human design. So tell us a bit about it. Human design is super complex. Just to start off and everybody listening. Yeah, it’s quite complex, but it’s basically a system that is like an amalgamation of all the different systems in the past put together to make like this unique blueprint, like this unique roadmap of who you are and what you are here to do. So yeah, human design is a combination of astrology. It’s a combination of Chinese ancient astrology as well, and the Hindu Chakra system, quantum physics. So basically it’s like a modern interpretation or a modern belief system of what we’re here to do. And that’s all individualized and very specific to you. So your design or your blueprint is completely different to the next person. It’s really unique. And how I usually explain it to people is, you know, in the past we had all these different belief systems and narratives and stuff like that, but that’s more like humans in that time period. We’ve evolved since then, so we kind of need something robust and really modern to match the evolution of humans. And I believe anyway, human design is that.

I love all the personality quizzes and it always helped me to figure out, like especially when I was in year twelve, I did a whole bunch of quizzes. What am I supposed to do? What are my strengths? What are my weaknesses? And then, you know, some of them, like the Meyers Briggs, they would give you a suggestion of these are some of your strengths and this is what you can use it for. And so I followed some of those, I was like, oh yeah, okay, that sounds like something I could do. But now I guess this is helpful for people who don’t know what they want to do.

It kind of guides them in a non scientific kind of way. It’s more spiritual, right? It’s both because it uses elements of science in astrology and quantum physics and the idea of energy or field in combination with something that’s more deep and internal. And I think that’s the spiritual side of it. It’s something that you need to understand within yourself in order to externalize it in your actions and your beliefs. What’s also great about human design is it gives you a strategy. So you know how you mentioned earlier you’re reading all this stuff and you’re like, okay, so I understand this, but how can I kind of make this happen or how can I act on this? And it doesn’t really tell you how to act on you got to make sense of it yourself, right? Yes, exactly.

Yeah. And that’s really subjective. Whereas human design gives you tells you your strategy and tells you also where your decision making center is. And this is where the superpower lies because a lot of us, we can be making decisions from our head. Maybe some of us make decisions from our heart, maybe some of us make decisions from our gut. We’re all different, but sometimes that’s us, like, dealing into where we make decisions. But human design tells you where your intuition is in your body, so your intuition might be in your heart, it might be in your head, but you be making decisions from your gut, right? And so that leaves you out of alignment. So what human design helps you do, it helps you get into more alignment with yourself. And sometimes when I read for people, people feel really seen. They’re like, oh, my God, I resonate with that. Oh, my God. What are you waiting for? Yeah, girl. I can’t wait to talk to you because I want to see if you’ve been acting in alignment, whether you know it or not, or how we can get in more alignment. And I love sharing this because ever since I discovered human design, which was like four years ago, I’ve been in this whole deep, like, experiment of using the strategy, using the intuition centers, and is literally blown my life out of proportion, like, as in a good way. Like, it’s kind of got me to living this, like, what we spoke about last time, this free, open and, like, you know, very adventurous life.

Can’t wait to get started because I want to hear about things that I can learn about myself. Yeah. So I’m going to screen share. In human design, there are five energy types, and our energy type speaks to our aura. So, like, what we vibrate, okay? And that’s a bit like esoteric a bit sometimes for people to understand. But sometimes you can feel someone, right? You can feel someone’s aura. Maybe someone’s aura is really intense and impactful. You can feel that those people are manifestors. They have a really impactful aura. If you’re like me, I make up 20% of the human population. I’m a projector, and my aura is really focused, so I can’t be in, like, a social setting and talk to many, many people. I prefer talking to one or two people because my energy has always been really focused, even with the tasks that I do.

Right now you’re over here, you’re a generator, and you make up 37% of the population, or 70% of the population are generators. And your energy is really open and enveloping. So I don’t know if you guys can see, like, open and enveloping, right? So that means that you guys are really receptive people. Like, you draw people into your energetic field, right? And that’s really cool because that allows you to have all this energy. Anyways, you guys are here. Generators, I’m speaking to you specifically, Van. You’re here to create the flow of energy that the world follows. So you guys are here to action. So here to create, here to put out the energy. And that’s a really powerful thing because myself, I can’t do that. I’m not an energy person. I’m just here to guide the energy. I’m here to guide the energy. So, for example, I’m here to guide you or those who have the energy, but you’re here to make it happen in the world. Yeah, it’s really quite I wish I had the energy, but I’m someone that needs to be resting and only like, guiding people and seeing people really deeply. That’s just a bit about the generator. Now we’re going to go on many people have many different things.

We’re going to go on to looking at your chart specifically. And while I do that, I just want to know, what do you think your superpower is? Honestly, you haven’t thought about that before? I should have asked you before we started because I asked everyone. But yeah, and I want to talk in terms of not superpower, as in your skills, like your external skills, but what are you here to contribute? What do you think your purpose? Well, that’s a really big question, actually. It is. I love it. I love that. Should’ve give me some time to think about this. That’s okay, you can think about it because I’m going to come and talk about it. I’ve got it all written down here. Actually, your specific one, I’m going to come and touch base on it, and then you can let me know if you resonate with it or maybe you’ll go away and you’ll think about it and you’ll be like, oh, now I understand how I can actually weave through this world using my power.

Okay, I have an idea. So this might be a little bit vague, though. I’m just curious to compare what I think and then what you showed me from human design. So I think my purpose is to guide people towards meaning in their life or towards finding fulfillment, something along those lines. I know that’s quite vague. No, it’s not vague at all. I’ll just leave that for later. I’ll come back to it matches because I kind of know already. So your energy type, like, I spoke about your generator, and you guys are the life force. If you think of chi and energy, like I said earlier, you guys are the energy force of the human population.

Now your strategy, now this is really important because when I spoke about earlier, about knowing a strategy or like how we can execute some of these things, actionable things, your strategy is to respond. What does that mean? So, for example, whenever you are in the respondee role, whenever you get to be the responder, that is when you are going to be in your power, basically. All right, when you’re in the position of being the responder, let’s use work as an example. Right? You know, your head teacher or your manager comes to you and they’re like, hey Van, we have this position open up and we think you’d be a great person for it. Right. That puts you into the responder mode, right. That you are responding to their request, you are responding to their statement. However, same situation if you went and gone ahead to your head teacher or manager and you were like, hey, I hear that there’s a position coming up and I would really love to do it, or I think I’d be a great person for a job that doesn’t put you into the responding role. That puts you into the initiating role, which is against your design. Right? I don’t like doing that. Yeah, it’s good. It’s good you don’t like doing that because you know that situations like that would lead you out of alignment. It’s uncomfortable because your body feels that. Your body is like, oh, that’s really weird and awkward. That’s a good thing.

So I want you to think about situations either past or present where you have initiated versus when you’ve been the responder. How has that turned out for you? Well, I feel like I do a lot of both in terms of initiating. I’m thinking to times when I’ve reached out to people, for example, people coming on the podcast and yeah, it doesn’t feel natural to me at all. Like, what do I say and how do I feel when I’m asking them? It doesn’t feel that great. But of course we all love being asked, right? I would love someone else to ask me the same question. I just thought my life I had to do both. Yes. So I want to let you know that your strategy is to respond. So perhaps going forward you can experiment with discerning between, hang on a second, am I in the respondee role? Versus oh, am I trying to initiate? Because those are the ones that we initiate. They’re going to might seem aligned or be okay at first, but in terms of longevity, those ventures, those collaborations, those things don’t have the legs to go the whole way. Like it’s not 100% aligned and it won’t make you feel satisfied. Right. But the ones where someone approaches you and you get to respond because you get to be like, hang on a second, is this going to work out for me? And then you get to respond. Those are the ones that are like in more alignment and they’re going to be the ones that would lead to other opportunities or lead you down closer to where you want to be on your goal or outcome.

So for example, let’s chat about us. I approached you right in the beginning. Right in the beginning. Have you think about that for a moment. But yes, I approached you and my strategy is not to initiate. My strategy is to be invited. Right. So I did this really carefully. I was like, hey, I saw this. I really resonated with your page, blah, blah, blah. And I just left it at that. And then you got to respond. But in your response, you’re like, hey, if you want to arrange a call, you can do that. And here’s the link. So you invited me into a call and I responded exactly our elements. Yes. And that’s why. Look at this relationship that we’ve cultivated, right? It’s like we’ve been on some chats, we’ve resonated with each other, and unconsciously we were following our strategy, and it’s really fruitful for us. So that’s just one example. It’s amazing example. You didn’t know this, but I was working with my strategy the whole time. I was like, how can I get Van to invite me into a conversation with her? I mustered the art of that, but I didn’t know that you had to be the responder. So if I knew that ahead of time, I would have also done it a bit differently as well. But anyway, that’s strategy, your one is to respond for big things in life, like work, relationship, friendships, moving, all these sorts of things. Just remember, how can I get into the responding responder mode so I can make decisions that are good for me rather than me initiating and then wondering if it’s going to work out and it’s feeling uncomfortable.

I have a question about that. Yes. Does this also apply for when it’s not people not responding to a person in particular, but even responding to a situation? 100%. 100%. Right? You can apply this situationally and you can apply in all areas of your life. And that’s why human design is like an experiment. People are like, how’s this going to work? It’s like a process of trial and error so that you can understand or become aware of your responding technique. For example, maybe a situation, whatever it is, right, instead of you recognize that there’s a problem in a situation, right? And instead of diving in there and fixing the problem, like a family issue or something like that, you just wait. You just wait. And you’re like, I’m going to just be the observer here. And then someone will be like, Van, we need your help. Like, what do you think of this? Boom. That’s your opportunity to, like, really respond and express what you want to express. And that’s going to be more effective than you being like, hey, I know how to fix this. I know the answer. Y

es. I was thinking of a particular moment of when I was thinking about doing something different in terms of work. But I sat on that idea for so long until I found this coaching certification and I found this world of life coaching, and I was like, okay, there’s an opportunity, right? And maybe that was me responding to that and deciding, hey, I’m going to take that up. Yeah. It’s also like an energetic response, right? So something appears in your life. Right. It comes to you by way of synchronicity or whatever, and then you feel like an energetic thing. You’re like, oh, wow, this is something new. You get the opportunity to respond to that. Right. It takes art. You have to know, be super aware that the universe is delivering you an opportunity. And you’re like, oh, I get to respond. I get to say yes or no to this.

So, yeah, let’s go to our authority. So here says authority the way you make decisions. So I don’t know, how do you usually make decisions? Where’s your decision making center? I don’t know what that means. Sometimes people have to think their decisions through, so they’re making decisions definitely emotionally. Okay. I feel like I feel a certain way towards something. Like you put on there listening to your gut, right? Yeah, I feel a certain way towards it. And then despite what everyone says or logically, I’m like, I’m doing that anyway.

Okay, good. But don’t mistaken feeling, because feeling is a very emotional basis versus guttural. Right? That’s different. Yes. Because when you say, I feel this, you’re emotional, like, I feel mad about this. I’m going to make a decision. I feel good about this. That’s like an emotional decision making center, right? Your decision making center is listening to your gut right now that you kind of distinguish between the two. It’s not really like, I feel really excited about this idea, or I really hate this idea. It’s not about the emotions then. Yeah. So see this. And you can even touch that part of your body, like, where your gut is. So if you have a look at the body center there, it’s kind of sitting below your stomach where you’re yes. Like, if you put your hands there, any time you want to make a big decision, you can just put your hand, bring your awareness and be like, what does my gut stay? Right? And usually for generators and for you specifically, it’s either a yes or a no. It’s not like, maybe it’s not like, oh, but I don’t know. I need to understand this. It’s never that. It’s always a yes or no. Your gut already knows it the moment you check in, it already tells you. But then your mind might confuse you, your emotions might confuse you, definitely all the time. And then that turns into a whole process. But usually you always come back to the yes or no you got initially, yes, I do. I circle around. I’m like, I really kind of know the answer, but I’m talking myself out of it. So I don’t do that. So defo listen to your guide, because that’s where your authority or the way you make decisions is from.

I’m different. I don’t make decisions from that place. I have to make decisions from here. See where that diamond is? That’s where my decision making center is. And it’s always about checking in with myself, I really have to check in with that part of my body and be like, okay, what’s the answer here? Right. I never listen to my gut because my gut is, like, open, so it can be easily infiltrated by other people’s instincts and gut thoughts.

Okay. So the next thing I want to get to is the profile. So you are a six two. Can you see here? Yes. The six on the left hand side represents your conscience or what you are on the outside to the external world, and the two represents what you are inside in your internal world. Okay. And the profile talks about how we kind of move through life. So the six represents the role model. Okay. So outside, externally, to those around you and the world, you are like the role model. That’s your archetype, basically the role model. External. How many are there? There are twelve different combinations of these archetypes. Right.

And the two, which is your unconscious, your more internal world. Okay. You’re definitely a hermit. Yeah. So on the outside, it’s like you’re the role model to your siblings, to those who are around you, even in your role as a coach. Right. To your students as well. You’re like a role model. People watch you, and they’re like, hey, wow, she’s doing all these cool things, like, you’re kind of paving the way. Right. But the hermit, the internal side of you, you’re just like this. Do you feel that? I don’t know. Yes, I do. All the time.

And sometimes I feel like cause, you know, you’re on that spectrum between, like, introvert and extroverted. Right. Because that’s what I’m comparing myself to, according to Myers Briggs, I’m like, sometimes I love being with people. I get energy from other people sometimes, and other times, I’m like, I don’t want to talk to anyone. I just want quiet time to myself. That’s it. That’s the hermit side of you. The hermit the profile line. In the two, you kind of like to close, and that’s where you feel safe. That’s where you kind of feel like, really held is when you’re kind of with yourself internally, but externally, you are the role model. So that’s really cool because the line of work that you’re in, in terms of teaching, in terms of coaching, it puts you in, like, you’re moving in the world. And in the line of work, that represents your profile, which is really cool. Right. I love how it represents what I’m doing now. Yeah. Say if you were, like, working in retail, and this is your and your profile is still a stick, too. I think some people have to make shifts, really rethink and reevaluate. How do I get into a position or get into a line of work that really allows my superpower, allows my strength to shine? We’re already in our line of work, like, our alignment, which is good because we’ve lived for almost 30 years. We’re hoping we’d get there sometime. Right.

The other thing is so that’s your profile, how you move. Let’s go back to your superpower. You said your superpower was guiding people, right? Where was it? Where were you guiding people to? To find meaning in their life. Okay. Right. So your incarnation cross here is your life theme, right? So your life theme is the left angle cross of distraction. So basically, distraction is like pulling people away from what they’re doing, right. Disrupting their normal thing and pulling them away, which is what you do if you think about it. You’re like, okay, they’re working in a job they don’t like. They’re in a life that maybe they’re comfortable, but they’re not really excited about. You’re here to distract them from there and be like, Whoa, that’s turn left. Yeah. Does that resonate with you? Yes, it does. Yeah. So you’re here to distract them. I know it seems like a bit, like, negative, but actually it isn’t because that’s your theme. You’re here to distract and disrupt that kind of plane that they’re going on so then they can hear off into a more aligned path for them.

Because I’ve always thought about what is my purpose? And I’m like, this is what I hope to do, but will I be able to do that? Yeah, but you are. And this human design is like an affirmation. It affirms what you probably already know about yourself internally. I love that you mentioned that because you know how as a coach, I talk to people about helping them out in coaching or just in conversations, and a lot of them say they just want people to tell them what to do. That’s what we’re used to. Right? But the truth is, we know the answers ourselves. It’s just a matter of uncovering all that, right? And needing someone to validate it, to give us permission to go there. Maybe some of your clients are super artistic and they want to. For them, what brings them the most joy is maybe their artistic creations, and they want to sell that, but they don’t feel like that’s the right thing or it’s not going to make them enough money or whatever sort of real job. But then they see their human design chart and they’re like, but I’m supposed to be creative. I’m here to be creative. And it gives them permission to do that. And once they step into that, they’re like, oh, my God, I feel so great. My life feels so aligned. There’s so many opportunities now coming my way as a result of me following my heart, following my purpose, which is what we were talking about in the last podcast, right? Human design helps us kind of get into alignment with our purpose a little bit and gives voice to that. I love that. Yeah.

So the next thing is a really interesting thing, and it’s called the not self theme. So the false self. And this is how you would know then if you’re out of alignment, if something is not right for you when you are feeling frustrated. So whenever you experience feelings of frustration, like, I’m frustrated with the work that I’m doing, I’m frustrated with that friendship, or I’m frustrated with that conversation that I had previously, that’s a sign. Your body is telling you, your emotions are telling you, oh, something is not in alignment here. Do you readily resonate with that? Yes. The last few years, there were a lot of frustrations, and I was thinking, that was me. I was like, oh, maybe it’s my problem. Like, as in, I am the problem. But then now I’m like, no, your emotions are messengers. They have to tell you something. The frustration has been happening a lot less recently.

You’re probably more in alignment now. Yes. But when frustration comes up, your body’s signaling to you, hey, there is something that is not right here. Maybe this friendship needs to go, or like, this job needs to be discarded, or we need to reevaluate how we approach that conversation so that it feels more aligned. It feels good so that I’m not feeling frustrated now. Some people think negative feelings like, oh, I feel bad. Oh, I feel sad. There are two ways to describe it. Oh, I feel bad about that connection. For you, it’s not feeling bad. That feeling is actually frustration giving name for it. And, yeah, it’s just like a warning sign to help to get you to have a look at it or become aware of it so that you can get back into alignment. Now, how do you know you’re in alignment? How does your body signal to you that you are in alignment? Satisfaction. So when you are feeling satisfied, you’re like, oh, damn, that call was so good. I’m feeling so great about the life choices I’ve made. I’m feeling so satisfied with how everything I’ve been having so many of those conversations lately, and especially with you in the last podcast, it’s affirming to me that this is right. Yeah, right. So that feeling of satisfaction is your body’s signal that is in alignment. So frustration not in alignment, satisfaction in alignment. And also the PDF I’m going to send you is there are going to be some other cues that you can read into to tell you whether you’re in alignment and you’re not in alignment and what your core needs are as a generator, which we will come to maybe later if we have time.

The other thing I want to speak about, and it’s going to be really crazy because I don’t see it resonating with you, but that’s because I don’t know you so well. Your digestion, so how you digest food and how you digest information and knowledge, like how you taking information from the external world. Apparently you do it really well if there is high sound and music around you. I’m not sure if this is related. I love working in spaces that are not dead quiet. I love working in spaces like a cafe that I do that often. But in the classroom, I’m like, there has to be a little bit of noise. If it’s silent, I feel a bit weird. Okay, yeah. So that makes sense, right? Because you digest information and food. If you’re talking biologically, how best does food digest in your body on a physiological level? Right. Needs to be high sound. So you need to have a telly on. You need to be in a cafe where there’s murmuring in the background, or you need to have like, music in you in order for you to digest information at its peak, right?

We can’t work together. I needed to be quiet, like no sound, don’t talk to me, no music. I just needed to be quiet. And even when I’m eating, I like eating with TV or music on. It needs to be calm and quiet for me to digest knowledge or food for you. High sound, be outside people talking to you. That’s when you’re going to really reap the benefits of what you’re eating. Nourish, like nutritionally and also taking information. But sometimes I feel like I need the quiet too. It’s quite rare. But even when I’m working, I like having some music on. Not music that I sing along to, not like pop music, but something playing. Yeah, naturally. And also you need the quiet because you’re a hermit. Right. But in terms of like, taking in information, like learning to have some sort of background noise for you in order to take in the most out of that. Anytime you want to learn or get productive in doing your editing and stuff like that, have music or be in a cafe, it really helps you.

Your strongest sense is your outer vision. So I want you to think of like your outer vision, your ability to see the environment around you. That is your strongest sense. Some people’s strongest sense is their smell, is their taste. And we’re not talking about physical senses. Yeah, it could be. It could be. My strongest sense is taste. It could be, but it’s more ethereal, it’s more metaphorical than that. So your strongest sense is your ability to see the bigger picture. If you’re talking about out of vision, right? Your ability to see everything widely. Some people’s strong sense could be their inner vision, right. What they see in the inner world. Some can be their smell. They can smell something bad happening. They can smell abundance, whatever it is. But your strongest one is your outer vision. When thinking about that as well, I am not like a detail oriented person. In some ways I am, but I don’t like looking at the details. I’d rather look at the bigger picture. I like looking at how things come together and the little parts and the nitty gritty of how the logistics of things. That makes sense. That makes sense. I’m like the opposite. I’m the details, like, all the little minute things. I’m like zone in on that, and I’m hyper focused on those things.

Your environment, the environment that makes you thrive the most is kitchens. Not the physical kitchen, the real kitchen. But if you have I was thinking, do I love cooking? Do I secretly love cooking? No. But if you think about kitchens as a place where people gather, right? People gather. There’s lots of chatter, there’s lots of things happening. Okay. And there’s a lot of creativity. So if you have a look at the bottom here, it says places that are creative hubs, where people can commune, whether it’s a literal kitchen or an art studio or whatever, that invokes creativity in you. So if you were in a coworking space where there are other people doing other things, right. Creative things, that’s going to make you if you’re thinking of, like, a photography studio, an art studio where people actively engaging in their creative senses right. That’s the optimum environment for you. So likewise, in a staff room, right. You’re talking about our context. In a staff room, you probably prefer a communal staff room than, like, one of those isolated this is your grade. You’re in the grade five staff room. Maybe you work best where it’s like everybody, the whole staff is there. At work. I guess at schools it’s a bit different. I feel like at school, I prefer smaller groups, but even if I’m working in your classroom with the kids right. Well, I’d rather not prefer that. I don’t know. School is just a different place for me. Like a whole other world. Yes. Because I don’t have time to spend a staff room. Yeah. So just know that if you’re in a position, maybe go to a coworking space and there’s a lot of noise and there’s a lot of other creatives doing things similar to you that’s going to help you boost your creativity and networking, and it’s going to help bring more opportunities that allow you to respond to that. Interesting. Yeah. So that’s like something you can actively do. I’ve always thought about that. Like working at a cafe, working at a library, somewhere quiet but with background noise. Then I guess working in a space where people are doing things that are similar to me or like, starting something of their own that would be more inspiring. Yeah.

Does that excite you, that idea? Yeah, it does. Yeah. I definitely recommend that. And this is something you can respond to, is to go to a coworking space and do a couple of days there because you’ll find that there are people doing the same thing or, like, similar thing, and then you can network and create connections and stuff like that, or come up with different ideas because of their energy. I know friends who do that. But the reason why I asked you if that excites you is generators are here or designed to do things that excite them. So if it doesn’t excite you, if it’s not a yes feeling in your gut and your body, it’s a no. It’s a no. Don’t even bother. Don’t even entertain it. Has that happened to you in the past? But can you think of instances like that? Probably a lot. Nothing comes to mind right now. Yeah, I probably completely forgot about those. Yeah. So just going forward, if it’s not a hell yes in your body, if it’s not like, something that excites you or lights you up, like, if you go to do it, even though it’s a no, it’s not going to be aligned, and it’s not going to give you the feeling of satisfaction.

In fact, it might frustrate you. A thing with generators is that if you don’t decondition, like, most generators have a problem saying no. So you guys might find that you say yes to a lot of things you want to say no to out of conditioning, out of responsibility, out of that’s the right thing to do. And then it leaves you frustrated because you’re doing these things that are not exciting and doesn’t light you up. That comes up in conversation a lot, saying no to things out of responsibility, out of obligation. And of course, I’ve experienced that a lot, too, when I was younger and slowly learning to differentiate between things that I want to do and things that I need to do to help someone else just because I have to. And you’ll find that when you do that yes. Right. When you feel like it’s a chore or like it doesn’t like you’re just doing it for the sake of doing it and not doing it from a place of like, oh, I want to do this, this lights me up.

But it’s hard because we’ve been conditioned a certain way for 30 odd years. Right. And to go back on that is really hard. So that’s why human design is like an experiment. You play with it, you become aware, and then you dance. I call it a dance. You dance with it. You learn to step forward, step back, and then after a while, you know how to dance, you know how to tango. Your human design, I love it. It’s experimenting because I feel like nothing can really decide for you who you are. Right. But at the same time, we have that strength for ourself to decide what we want to do. And then whether it’s in alignment or not, that’s up to us. Right. And we won’t know if we don’t try. Right. So I always invite people I’m like, Just try. What’s the worst that can happen? One month, you follow your strategy of responding. You follow your authority of listening to your gut and see where that takes you. And you keep your theme or your purpose of distraction, distracting other people from their life path and yours also and see how that goes. Where does that take you? Does it create a mindset shift? Does it help you understand yourself better? Right, and then almost 100% of the time people are like, oh my God, it’s so real. This just came up, this opportunity, I just noticed this and then they keep going with it.

Another thing I want to speak to is what I found interesting is this throat center here, right? See how it’s shade and orange? You have these gates, right? So the gates are correlated. There are 64 gates in the human design chart and they’re correlated with the 64 gates in the Chinese ying. Okay? All the numbers represent a characteristic and in your throat center you have three gates. And these gates, let me just read a few of them out for you. The gate of assimilation, the gate of stimulation, and the gate of change. These are just the three in your throat chakra and it’s how you communicate, how you express. Right. So you’re really good at communicating for yourself and for others, change, stimulation, how you shake something up, right? And how you integrate and assimilate things after change. Which is exactly, I think, what you do in your coaching. Yeah, I was planning some content out and those are basically the things I’m talking about. Yes. So you’re working towards your design already and the fact that you’re talking it out, you’re not like just writing in a blog, right? You’re podcasting about it, you’re expressing it in your reals. Right. It’s because you have the ability to communicate and express things. Some people don’t have this communication center defined, so they might find it hard to express themselves. But like you and I, we have it defined, so we find it really natural and really easy to communicate these things that are within us out to the world.

This wasn’t always the case though. Oh really? Tell me what? When I was younger, I would always sit the back, I wouldn’t speak up and my thoughts always keep them in. And over time, since uni, I think having to speak up, needing to do presentations and prepare myself to speak in front of a class, I think that has really opened up that gate. Yeah, good. I love the way you said that because it’s all about opening up something that’s blocked. Right? When we’re not using it correctly, it’s blocked. And that’s when we feel anxiety, that’s when we feel confusion. But when we open it up and express it out, we’re allowing energy to come in and exit our body through that throat chakra or that communication center. It’s funny you say that because see here 43 and 23. So gate 43 is the gate of insight and gate 23 is the gate of assimilation. When these two gates connect, see how they’re connected by the shaded part? It makes a channel. Okay, so you have the gate of insight, you see things. OK, and the gate of aiming at. So how do you integrate what you see and express that out through your throat? When they come together, they make the channel of Structuring. Okay, so when those two gates come together, they make the channel of Structuring. And in the channel of Structuring, it’s like thoughts, ideas, right. And then visions, like ideals or whatever. Insights, individual ideas, you’re expressing them out.

Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Now, I was thinking back about what I just told you about how this all kind of started in uni, right? And I kind of linked back to the idea of being a role model because before that, I guess I was a role model for my siblings and younger kids. But it wasn’t until I stepped into the role of being that role model and was active in that, that’s when I started communicating more. Yeah, so you come more alignment, and that only comes over time. Obviously. It’s not going to happen when we’re young. We don’t know, but it comes over experienced. And so I just think of, like, your page and what you do and like, you have all these ideas of how you can guide or help second generation women in your head, because you’ve experienced that before. You have insight into that because you’ve been there before. Right. And then you express that through your content, and you express it in a way that when people read it, they’re like, oh, I resonate with that. Because lots of people can express content, express their ideas, but they might do it in a really unstructured way where people are like, oh, I didn’t resonate with that. That doesn’t inspire me, that doesn’t connect with me. But because you have that channel, you’re able to structure in a way, and I can see it in the way you set out your reals that when people look at it, they’re like, okay, I understand that. I can see that, I can capture that and like, that’s being expressed through in a way that’s easier to process. I thought that was my teacher planning skills. Well, your experience helps you navigate that really well. It is actually, now that I think about it. Can I understand it because I’m a teacher, because I see it adopt points. Step one, step two, step three. Here is a theme. Here is what we’re talking about. One, two, three. It’s really simple in my head, right? But maybe to someone who doesn’t have those ordering skills, right? Yeah. It helps them conceptualize. That better. Yeah. I think I do have a process that I go through in my head, but I guess it comes more naturally to me to do that. A lot of people feel like, really steam. I’m like, oh my God, I already do that. I’m like, yeah, so you’re in alignment. You have some of these skills. You just got to amplify them or be more aware of them. So that you can get really close to doing what you want or doing what you love or finding your purpose or doing what I say sets your soul on fire or another interesting thing. Right. There are so many.

Do you see your diamond shape here? Yes. It’s so opened, right. You don’t have any gates, which means that when it comes to your direction, when it comes to your sense of self, is very easy for you to absorb what other people think or who other people think. You should be very easy for you to absorb that, even though naturally, that’s not who you are, because you’ve got such an open g center. They call it the identity center, that you can absorb what other people’s thoughts are of you and then, like, taking other people’s ideas. Yes. And then not having that define me. I don’t have to agree with it. Yes. But then sometimes, if you’re not aware of it in its shadow state so all of these gates and all of these elements have their higher self or their gift state, and they also have their shadow and their darkness state. Right. So, in the open G center, because you have an open, you can really help people identify or see who they are. But in its shadow state, you can absorb what other people think. Not random thoughts, but what other people’s thoughts of who you are, your identity. You can absorb that.

Now, the interesting thing about us is that that part of me is fully defined. What does that mean for you? That means that people can’t tell me who I am. I won’t be absorbing what other people think of me. It’s defined in a sense that it’s set, I know who I am, I know what I’m doing, and you can’t tell me otherwise. You can’t. I’m so defined in who I am. Right. And when you and I are together, because I have that defined, you might feel like, I get myself more when I’m around gen, or I understand myself. I trust you more. I see myself more when you’re in my space, because oracle energetically, I’m so defined in that center.

Conversely, I have these two parts open, completely open. See this sacral and this root part? It’s completely open. Right? You can infiltrate me when I’m around you. I have the energy, and I feel really enthused. You can feel it. You can see it in my energy, and I’m like, wow, let’s do this. Let’s get engaged. Let’s have a chat. Right? I can see right now. Yes, but that’s because you have it defined. It’s not me. Right? I don’t have those sensors defined. It’s you. And I’m kind of, like, leaching off your energy. Okay, you get it. When you’re around me, that g center, you’re kind of like, absorbing me in turn, gives you empowerment, and then I’m absorbing your energy, and in turn, you’re empowering me. So when we’re together, we’re kind of like complementing each other in where we’re deficient. Yeah. How cool.

So can you explain those two again? Like the diamond one and then the two bottom ones again? Yeah. So the diamond one is the G center and it represents your identity, your sense of self. Okay. Your one’s open, so if it’s open, it means that it’s receptive. It can absorb other people’s energy very easily. When the center this is a staple, it’s an energy center. It’s got lots of energy. It’s life force and the root as well. It’s the pressure center. Both of these centers here are motor centers. Right. And they’ve got a lot of energy. No one can infiltrate your energy because you are defined. So when it’s defined, it’s set, it’s fixed. Your energy is fixed. It’s yours. OK, so if I’m low energy and you’ve got all the energy, it won’t impact you because you’re defined in it. But when it’s open, it can be easily impacted. I think it’s a lot to absorb, and I’m reflecting on that as well. Like thinking, how has that impacted my experiences before? I’m thinking of instances when that has happened. Yes. I like using examples that maybe some of this stuff will come as you go on and then you’re like, oh, wait, that resonated all the way. And then you start connecting the dots. And this is why it’s an experiment, because we have these revelations of insight into how we’ve operated in the past and how we can attune to operate in our present or in our future to be more aligned to our design. I call it aligning with your design. Right.
Yeah. Getting attuned to who you were born to be and what your heaps do. And this can be really scary for some people because they’re like, what? You’re trying to define my purpose, you’re trying to tell me how to adjust myself. Can be really confronting, but also really exciting at the same time. I always love these type of things that kind of give you guidance, right. That can’t really tell who you are, but in a way you kind of can because sometimes you’re like, oh, I never thought about it that way. I’d do that, but I haven’t thought about it that way.

I have a question about what you just talked about before. Does that also apply for when you can, like, empathize with people? For example, if someone is crying or someone’s upset and you say, I’m defined, right? I’m already like, you can’t impact me. Is that what it means? Like, if someone’s upset, then I would just feel how I was feeling without changing that? No, it’s kind of like that. And if we’re speaking specifically about emotions and empathy, right? So your chart here, right? See how that’s open? That’s the emotional solar plexus. So that’s the center for emotions and feelings and stuff like that. See how when yours is undefined so it’s open. So you have the ability to empathize with someone very much. Right. But it doesn’t make you emotion because it’s not defined.

So you’re not an emotional person per se, but if someone is upset or they’re feeling emotional, you can empathize with them because you can absorb the energy. Right. But where the line of discernment is, is that you don’t take it on don’t take on their sadness or their frustration or whatever emotions that they’re going through, but you can empathize with them because it’s very easy also because of the Underfin sentences, for you to absorb that and then make that your own. Right. But the power of knowing this is that you’re like, okay, I can empathize with them, but I don’t have to take on their energy. Yeah. Because I feel like sometimes in the moment, I might empathize and see what they’re feeling, but when I’m out of that situation, it doesn’t affect me as strongly. Yeah, that’s normal, because those feelings are not yours. You’re not an emotional person. But if you are an emotional person right. I feel like I am. No, we all feel like we are. I feel like I’m an emotional person. I can cry at the drop of a hat, but by design, I can see someone upstairs and be like, oh, I feel for that person, and I can cry, but like yourself and I walk away from it, I’m like, okay, I’m so not deterred by it. But some people can feel really, like, unhinged by their own emotions as well, right. Their whole day. Yeah, exactly.

Let’s talk about other people’s emotions. Right. But let’s talk about our emotions. We both have an undefined emotional solar plexus here, right. So we may think that we’re emotional, but we’re actually probably a lot more non emotional than we think because we can get over things very quickly. So here’s just some info. The Dalai Lama is a generator. That’s really cool. So that’s going to give you a bit of information. Okay. So you’ll see this in the PDF as well. Here are your superpowers, your core needs, and your shadow. So when you know you’re in your dark stage, and when you know you’re in your gifts as well yeah, it’s a great tool to get to know yourself. It’s just another tool. You don’t have to buy into it. You don’t have to believe that. You don’t have to take it. It’s just like another thing for you to reflect and evaluate and take whatever you want and then leave whatever you don’t want. Right? Yeah.

Because I was thinking about those people who, you know, even for myself, when I read, like horoscopes and star signs and things like that, like fortune cookies, of course, like, that is just something completely different. But how much does that tell you about yourself? Those things are really broad if you think about it. There are twelve zodiac signs, there’s twelve astrological signs. Even the animals in the chinese horoscopes. There’s only so many and they define our characteristics and stuff like that, and we can resonate with some of them. But I think the difference with human design is no one has that specific chart just like yours. I mean, it has to be someone who was born at the same time, same place, right? Same year, same everything in order for that to happen.

Even if you have a twin, like an identical twin that was born at the same time, the fact that not the same time, but the fact that you guys were born one after another, not at the same time, that could change the course of your chart. And that’s why when we have twins, right. You can have them the same or the same input date, time, place, whatever, but their personalities are completely different and the human design charts will show that. Yeah. I like how unique that is. When you’re talking. I was thinking about when you read your horoscope. Okay. I was born the other dog. How many people were born the other dog? Yeah. I’m a Leo. But there are so many, like millions of Leos in the world. I’ve always been targeting you. Yeah, it’s so broad, it’s so general. All the Leos can’t be going through the same thing at the same time. Right? Exactly. And that’s why when you read those, you’re like, okay, this could be true, this part. But if I’m just guessing right? Yeah. And then it might resonate with some Leos and then it might not. They’re like, I’m not going through this right now.

But with human design, it’s so specific. It’s so specific down to, like, your gate of insight. You might have that, but the person next to you who is born at the same time and in the same place won’t have that because of the time or whatever. And it’s super unique to you. No one has got that one same chart or element as you do. They say human design is like the science of differentiation. Yes. It really helps differentiate down to the core how unique humans actually are. So there are only five types within those types that are broken down, your sacred generator. There are some people who are emotional generators. There are some people who are blending generators. Right. And then within that, they have different gates, they have different channels, they have different authorities. So, so different.

So, yeah, you can definitely hear your passion as you talk about it’s. So interesting to hear someone else’s perspective and your interpretation of that, because I can’t read that. Yeah. It’s taken me a while to really dive deep because when I first came across it, I was like, there’s so many elements. And even now, I don’t even know the full spectrum, the minor details of everything. I know how to read a chart, I know lots of things, but there’s so much more to learn. And I love sharing this with people because people always walk away like, my clients always walk away with, like and then they’ll message me, like, two weeks later, and I’ll be like, oh, my God, this thing happened. I tried that strategy, and this happened, and that happened. I can’t believe it. And it just shows me anyway how fruitful and how beneficial it could be for people it’s just to get to know themselves. Yeah. It all goes to show how everything kind of comes together when you’re in alignment. Exactly. How to how to know when you’re not in alignment. Right.

I’ve had conversations with people lately who don’t know who they are. They don’t know their strengths. They don’t know what they want to do in life, and they say they’re working, you know, just going through the motions of life and like, well, you know, it’s okay. Life is okay. I can continue with life as it is right now, but I’m not satisfied. I’m not feeling that sense of alignment. Like, nothing feels like it’s in the right place. And so this would be so helpful for people like that who just want another tool, because all those free quizzes that you can do online, like, they’re only helpful so far. Right. Whereas this is, like, unique to you, unique to the person who’s going through that, and your interpretation of that guides them in the right direction of, okay, this kind of is helpful, or if it’s not showing up in their life, how can I experiment with that and see how that goes?

See, I love that you’ve done that. You just work right into your design. I just gave you this information in the last half an hour, 45 minutes, bring it back, and you’re, like, regurgitating that in a really structured and made sense manner for the people listening out there. Right. Which is great for me because I’m in my element now. You need to find yours, dude. I’m writing it because actually, my superpower is the channel of inspiration. So I have the channel of inspiration in me. So by just being me, doing what I do and just following my bliss, I’m able to inspire other people to follow their beliefs or do what they want to do or help guide people into doing what they want to do, their unique expressions of themselves.

And that’s why I’m like in this kind of world, because I’m like, wow, this is a tool for me to do that. That’s why I feel so alive. And you can hear it because I’m like, oh, wow, I’ve just found the portal or the gateway to get into that. So your superpower is to distract. My superpower is like a left angle cross of revolution. So I’m here to revolutionize the way you do things. I’m here to revolutionize the way you see yourself. I’m here to revolutionize how people operate in their world so they can get into more alignment with themselves. I can see that. Yes. And I can imagine what you would do in the future. Thank you. But I think that’s why we work great, because our superpowers, our gifts, I call them, are in alignment. They’re in the same field. So it makes sense to me that we were in our work, in the same profession. We have the same background. We’re kind of moving into the same line of work at the same age, you know, in our life, in the same part of our journey.

So it just says that, like and, you know, I think we spoke about this in our last chat. It’s funny how things just connect, like how we came together. Now it’s not funny anymore. It’s like, whoa, it makes sense to happen. That’s amazing. I can see so much of what you’re doing in your personality and how you present yourself, and so this will be so beneficial for the listeners, for people who want to interact with you in the future. So I’m going to leave your links in the show notes in case anyone wants a human design reading. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. I hope I haven’t been talking at you there’s a lot, but yeah, I’m so happy that I get to get to know you from your design and see that come to fruition or express in a reality, like, you know, through what you’re doing.

Remember, you’re a human BEING, not a human DOING.


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Van Anh

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